Prince Andrew’s military affiliations and royal patronages returned to the Queen

1 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:16:16ID: s34eqv
Prince Andrew's military affiliations and royal patronages returned to the Queen
2 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:18:17ID: hsid349

This is the right decision from the Queen but it would have been better if it had happened as soon as he stopped undertaking public duties.

I'm happy the Queen isn't paying for his legal fees and is making Andrew do it himself.

ID: hsigd46

Genuine question, how does he have the means to pay himself? Would his income not be part of the royal purse, so in a way the queen will be paying.

ID: hsimcbz

He's selling the £18 mill chalet he bought off a friend, but didn't pay for. She had to threaten legal acrion to make him pay the balance. Nice guy

ID: hsie7ti

Isn't it a US based case? I don't see them agreeing to ever extradite him. So technically can't be just ignore it forever?

ID: hsif6nn

He will probably never be in the courtroom and will have lawyers representing him.

Another thing to note is that this is a civil law suit meaning if he is found guilty he will only be fined, he will not face prison or jail. (I've seen so much misinformation on this case)

ID: hsip64q

This is not a criminal case, but if it were there are several treaties in place in regards to extradition for criminal trials. Normally though those would occur in the most serious of cases only, and I would presume this would be borderline at best (not to downplay the seriousness of the allegations at all, but outside of murder or terrorism not much gets there). They also take distance into consideration, so if he were in Canada it would be more likely to extradite than England. The other consideration is that not all countries have civil rights to the extent that the US does (mainly habeas corpus), and one country could just hold someone indefinitely in lieu of extradition.

Source: im a criminal defense attorney.

ID: hsiegql
ID: hsim0jg

Its not a criminal case. There's no need for extradition.

ID: hsjra4d

They'll make a judgment against him in absentia if he doesn't show. Giuffre seems eager to procure an admission of guilt from him too.

Seems likely there will be an out-of-court settlement with the caveat that he admit guilt.

Or maybe they could use the admission of guilt as a wedge to up her payout from $5 million to $10 million, in order to assure he doesn't have to explicitly admit guilt. Either way, she wins the suit, he is codified with guilt in the public's eyes.

There's no way he would want to be deposed and asked to disclose intimate details of his sex life, among whatever other dirt laundry they have dug up on him.

He could always refuse to pay the settlement, but that would make a bad situation worse for him and the Royal Family. The popular outcry would be deafening and would hurt the image of the Royals even further. Plus, I'm sure there is pressure to get this whole thing wrapped before the Queen's Platinum Jubilee celebrations.

ID: hsizrxl

The royals have assets in the US that can be seized if they default.

ID: hsiguo8

She is footing most of his legal fees, just not all. We’d all be fools to believe she isn’t helping her precious bb boy behind the curtain.

ID: hsjpkqj

Well said and completely agree esp that it should have started as soon as they moved him down from public service

But good on the Queen for doing what I’m sure was a difficult decision

ID: hsif2uk

Making him pay the legal fees like a big boy!

ID: hsii9ha

Right out of England's bank account

ID: hsip7ig

what? This is all just for-show. If she really cared about justice, she'd make him stand trial against the mountain of evidence in criminal court.

But nope, just return those metals. ok.

ID: hsiy7ct

not criminal court, civil court

ID: hsj48za

He hasn't been charged in criminal court.

4 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:59:32ID: hsijwdk

Royal Family ain't taking the fall for Randy Andy

ID: hsj8xmc

Had forgotten that name for him. Aged like milk under the Royal mattress.

5 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:43:54ID: hsihav7

The Andrew Formerly Known As Prince

ID: hsikoum

As great of a joke as this is, I feel obligated that he will still be Prince Andrew - he is still the Queen's son. It's just everything else he loses

ID: hsjz7mz

Every day, we go to work to pay bills, save for retirement, buy our kids stuff. This guy is born with millions and no need to work and he still fucks it up. I mean, couldn’t he have dated some hot 32 year old? Dude, what is wrong with you.

ID: hsiycc2

The Paedophile formerly known as Prince

ID: hsjg40r

she was 17, and although there is a legal age of consent issue, i think sex with a 17 year old is not paedophilia. The age of consent in the UK is 16 for example.

ID: hsjgzxt

It's not pedophilia, she was 17. It's people trafficking and rape.

ID: hsjohga

Oof, incoming Peter file apologists and defenders.I can't believe we have those.

6 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:06:26ID: hsil0x9

He deserves everything he gets but I wonder why he is the only big name on a very long list who is being publicly thrown under the bus?

ID: hsjalfr

Because other rich people don't give a shit about him. Hopefully he's slimy enough to name names to save himself

ID: hsk3ug8

Asking the real questions

7 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:58:16ID: hsijoup

Poor fella....maybe he shouldnt rape little girls

ID: hsipjoi

Sir Thomas More married a 17 year old and had four children with her before she died at age 23. He was later made a saint for disagreeing with Henry VIII about his marriage vows. Henry thought they were invalid; Thomas disagreed.

I don't approve of rape, but having sex with 17 year olds was certainly legal for thousands of years.

ID: hsiqehf

LOL...justification for rape ...from the 1500s

ID: hsisjig

What a bizarre statement to make when talking about victims of child sex trafficking. Have some basic social awareness. Gross.

ID: hsiqrg0

We’re talking about less than ten years old.

At an age where the lifespan of a woman is 70.

When you’re talking about is about 30-50 years old for a lifespan. Don’t make excuses.

ID: hsjv0zf

This isn't some romeo and juliet situation with a 17 year old boy and an 18 year old girl who are both in high school, this is a 50+ year old grown man and a 17 year old victim of human trafficking who is very much not consenting and has no other choice.

I'm sure she "consented", but consent under duress or under a threat is not consent.

ID: hsjois3

Are you renound lawyer Lionel Hutz ?

9 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:21:49ID: hsinjd4

Wait didn't they strip Harry of his military honors and royal patronages because he wanted his own life? So you're telling me Harry lost all of that BEFORE Andrew? Really tells you everything you need to know about that family.

ID: hsipvs2

Technically, they quit. But yes, this should have been done to Andrew a long time ago.

ID: hsirc5b

It was made pretty clear that they weren’t welcome there for the color of their kid.

I do believe Meghan when she described how people asked her the possibility of having a black kid. Especially since there was already mounting tension in the palace already picked up going on.

ID: hsir6wj

The queen's son vs Princess Diana's son...

ID: hsiqi8d

That’s what I was thinking this whole time.

A son marries an African American woman and he is practically disowned in every way possible because the kid might not be white.

Another son fucks with underage girls and a petition has to cause it to happen.

ID: hsisov7

is it because she's african american or because she is a commoner?

ID: hsit54r

Harry’s also a lot further down the line of succession.

Edit: for some reason, I had York and Wales mixed up. I sit corrected.

ID: hsiui7x

Actually it's the other way around.

10 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:02:38ID: hsikeij

Fucking took them long enough.

11 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:24:35ID: hsinzll

But wait, I thought that he was innocent on account of the no sweating thing?!?

ID: hsipme4

And eating pizza thing.

And never meeting her thing.

12 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 20:02:22ID: hsj3oz5

And just like that, the Royal Fucker becomes the Royally Fucked.

14 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:17:51ID: hsid0ma

I know my mans is SWEATING.

15 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:32:13ID: hsifdnu

We need accountability in 2022.

ID: hsigehg

Unlikely when the rich just got a lot richer and more powerful

16 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:23:22ID: hsidxeo

It's good that this happened, but this doest make the considerable amount of time it took any less... Troublesome.

17 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 19:36:38ID: hsizjqt

Maybe he can start sweating again???

19 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 19:04:36ID: hsiugc9

So next season of THE CROWN will feature Meghan and Harrys wedding, Prince Phillips death and this asshole whining about how no one likes him anymore

ID: hsk1wc2

That show is pure apologia. Mountbatten was into little boys, that’s been buried deep.

20 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:42:00ID: hsigzmw

I read that he was always her favorite. This cannot be good for her health.

ID: hsit2pz
ID: hsivy1j

Ouch. One shouldn’t wish for anyone’s death. Not good in the karma department!

21 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:38:15ID: hsigdl2

“I believe you lost this… together with the dignity you never had.”

22 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:39:45ID: hsigmel

Only once his trial was to go ahead they made this move to separate away from him! I don’t like it!

23 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:19:08ID: hsin39d

Why was this numbskull, out of shape pedophile given any military duties? The scandal should be that he had all of these titles in the first place.

• Colonel of the Grenadier Guards• Deputy colonel-in-chief of the Royal Lancers• Colonel-in-chief of the Royal Irish Regiment• Colonel-in-chief of the Yorkshire Regiment• Colonel-in-chief of the Small Arms School Corps• Royal colonel of the Royal Highland Fusiliers• Honorary air commodore of RAF Lossiemouth• Commodore-in-chief of the Fleet Air Arm

ID: hsixi8h

Not to overly defend him but he did serve in the Royal Navy and flew helicopters during the Falklands War.

ID: hsjto4p

These titles means that he was responsible for making sure they were all in an operational status. It is the reason for the Pass and Review ceremonies.

ID: hsk01ba

The royal family should have zero oversight, control any influence over the military. The UK is supposed to be a democracy.

This guy is a terrible human being and his family is famous for their racism. The UK needs a revolution and having the royals in control of the military allows the toffs to win.

24 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:50:30ID: hsis6zp

Getting auld Andy ready for the axe he'll be exiled to some country castle somewhere to wile out his years fishing or whatever.

25 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 21:25:25ID: hsjgu2z

Translation : God bless and good luck

26 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 21:33:20ID: hsji3jt

Who says that "the news" is filled with just bad news.

27 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 21:34:01ID: hsji7l9

The Duke of York is going to trial in New York

28 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 22:28:07ID: hsjqw27

I'm curious does stripping Andrew off affiliation and the royal household mean he isn't subject to report yearly royal financial reports on everything he spends or earns?

I believe that all active royals have to do that?

If so Andrew is now able without anyone knowing large sums of money from "benefactors" to settle the case quickly?

29 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:39:23ID: hsigkah

"With The Queen's approval and agreement...

Heh. Yeah, I suppose that's one way to put it.

30 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:11:30ID: hsilun5

Does this mean he isn't in line to the throne anymore?

ID: hsioomb

He's already behind Charles, William, his kids, Harry and his kids, he's like 10th in line?

ID: hsiwr22

9th, behind Harry's kids, for reference Edward is 14th Anne is 17th. Looking it up he can be excluded from succession but only by an act of Parliament. Not sure how that scenario would affect his kids and grandkids number in the line mind. Doubt they'd bother with it though he's well down the line as it is.

ID: hsircw6

Yeah, he's way down the list. But maybe Edward will take his spot now. Or Anne?

31 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 20:16:08ID: hsj5xyb

She's complicit too....Off with her head!

32 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:51:40ID: hsiilah

Wouldn't the financial penalty be in the millions at best? I assume he can cough up a million or two. It would be better if jail was on the line but this is civil.

ID: hsiknuq

Just sold his ski chalet for 24million

ID: hsio80e

That he 'bought' off a friend who had to threaten legal action to get the money

ID: hsingd5

Oh don't worry. Some billionaire looking for some cachet and to ingratiate himself into the aristocracy will find a way to help him out.

ID: hsjel6z

I’m sure.

33 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 19:05:59ID: hsiuo8m

If he couldn’t sweat before, I bet he is now 😉

34 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 20:36:42ID: hsj9bi6

This man is 61 years old and Mummy is finally cutting off the purse strings. I'm a big kid now!

ID: hsjiks6

Is she? She’s taking back titles, not money.

ID: hsjtx5k

Money is allocated according to the titles held, so yes. Money.

35 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 21:38:44ID: hsjiz6k

This is an admission that what Andrew was involved in was seriously messed up. Even if he is found not guilty in court, the Queen is like “This shit is not right”.

36 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:22:17ID: hsidqy5

This is moving in the right direction, but until this predator is in gen pop, it’s all meaningless posturing.

ID: hsigl40

Even if found guilty, the most punishment would be a financial one. This is a civil case and jail/prison is not on the table

ID: hsigvlw

Like I said, this is all just meaningless posturing. Any fine he receives will not impact his life in any way whatsoever. Unless he’s thrown in jail, he’s basically getting away with it.

37 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 18:30:05ID: hsiovxn

Hearing of these shocking allegations the Queen took immediate action.

38 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 17:43:04ID: hsih5xj

Good, now make sure he stays alive until his trial

ID: hsikkna

He'll settle.

39 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 19:12:12ID: hsivnua

Hot conspiracy: The Queen is dead (has been for a few weeks now), and it will be later expressed to the media that she died due to the stress and grief that Andrew's shame brought to the family (this will serve to move up the date of her death closer to the present). This will serve to get the public angry and focused on Andrew while they grieve, and distract from any claims that the Queen knew about his evil for a long time and turned a blind eye (as if they claim she died from the revelation itself it seems like she was in the dark to his activities and powerless to stop it)

40 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 22:34:21ID: hsjrv76

when will he be arrested?

ID: hsk2aoe

This is a civil not criminal case. So not for this.

42 :Anonymous2022/01/14(Fri) 00:08:01ID: hsk60it

Keep in mind that this is in response to an increased likelihood of trial and not additional evidence of guilt. The Queen doesn’t give a shit that he was raping young girls. She cares that he got caught and is now embarrassing the family.

It would be nice is she came out and said that raping is wrong, but her family has a long history of doing so.

Also he is giving up the title of Royal Highness and several military ranks he didn’t earn, but his mother thought would make him look good. Still no word on if he is receiving hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars yearly.

43 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 21:37:16ID: hsjiqqg

As a woman in a male-dominated world, I find this so gratifying. Especially since he's royalty, white, rich, and privileged. That used to mean he was Teflon. Not so much any more.

45 :Anonymous2022/01/13(Thu) 23:58:57ID: hsk4ooq

They just need to abolish the entire monarchy.