- The great American sickout: Omicron is causing "hellacious" worker shortages
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It’s not just people that are sick, it’s also family who has to take care of the sick ones. People are sicker, period. I’ve had to take a leave of absence taking care of family member who has a serious illness, which might’ve been caught earlier if not for covid hampering seeing doctorsID: hsnkjdr
And HOW many companies are still maintaining the same shitty sick leave policies they had pre pandemic? Know what happens right now if I tell my work I have covid? I miss a week’s payID: hsnlzi2
I worked threw itID: hsngexl
Yeah I had to take a week off at the restaurant (luckily it was on Christmas/New Years which they give us 2 days off already for that week) helping my bro/mom get better from covid.ID: hsnn2i1
Sadly that's otherwise a big money week for the industry. Glad you were able to care for your family, sorry it happened during the most lucrative time of the year.ID: hsnl95h
Gee, it's almost like being the only developed country on earth to not have mandatory sick leave would have negative side effects.ID: hsnkb3y
And people who are in quarantine with said people. My sister’s stranded with her boyfriend the last week because they went to his grandmother’s house after they got their boosters, and he felt rather ill. So far tests are negative and he’s feeling better, but until the test yesterday comes back (very slow rn), they’re stranded. On top of juggling an immunocompromised two year old in the house and trying to keep him safe.
Both of these two people are fresh out of college and applied to Costco recently for jobs, but right now doing that or training their skillsets further are both on hold.
I work retail and literally every day for the past 2 weeks I’ve gotten a text saying 3 more people in the store have gotten COVIDID: hsnjpfw
My work everyone who’s not vaxed is calling out they’re fucked.
Meanwhile, my wife's work has an average of 10-15 new cases a day and she still can't work from home
They also don't have any sanitation crews to help slow the spread. Hell, they don't even have maintenance crews. Employees are expected to clean the labs and bathrooms.ID: hsnhs8j
Disney restaurant had my friend come into work - testing positive, as a server. Fuck all of this.ID: hsni7b9
That's just inexcusable.ID: hsnkbtf
Thank the Supreme CourtID: hsnmxp3
She should be letting every table know she's positive.ID: hsnirq5
At what point do employees file lawsuits against their employers after they caught COVID as a result of the employers' actions?ID: hsnlqhw
Probably never, because nobody can afford that fight except the corporation with all its extra revenue.
I might eventually win a lawsuit against my employer, but not before being homeless.ID: hsnmegz
One of the many crappy things about the CDC's new guidelines are that employers will use them as a shield for inevitable lawsuits. Since CDC is a heath authority, they will say they followed their guidelines and thus aren't at fault for putting everyone at risk. And the CDC will get immunity because of "mitigating factors".ID: hsnm0se
This point, right now.ID: hsnnfwk
Wasn't that made illegal at the beginning of the pandemic? But honestly so many shitty things have happened it's hard to keep up.ID: hsnmt9d
Ahahahaha. I AM the sanitation crew at work. Girlfriend has it, I'm asymptomatic.
The ONLY night janitor for a night work crew of ~200 in a 100,000+ sq. ft. factory setting where I walk 10 miles a night.
My boss is messaging me daily asking when I will be back.ID: hsnn0v8
Jesus. I'd reply never and become a tradesman or something
I dislike the use of the word "" because it implies workers aren't actually sick.
*edit to fix typo: work -> wordID: hsndm8d
Or that that workers aren’t entitled to time off while sick.ID: hsnh5c6
Or that people who aren't sick aren't entitled protection from those who are.ID: hsnhle0
I’ve never had a job that offered sick days. Seems like most workers are already not entitled to time off for illness. You either have to use PTO or just not get paid.
Fuck, even the military had sick days. If I was sick I could go to medical and get an SIQ (sick in quarters) chit and take the day off without effecting my leave(PTO). Granted it wasn’t easy to get an SIQ chit, but it was at least an option.
We need guaranteed sick days.ID: hsnmdtn
Woah, woah now that sounds like socialism to me!ID: hsnc873
Yep this is a completely inappropriate use of the term sickout. Workers aren't protesting, they're literally too sick to work.ID: hsnlpit
Don't you get it?
Our overlords changed the CDC Reccomendations, how dare we actually take time to recover and hopefully prevent permanent damage to ourselves?
I'm boostered and currently at home from work and sick as hell. I didn't know my throat could be in so much pain, my whole neck is swollen, almost like the mumps. Everyone at my office is getting sick, it's like a revolving door.ID: hsncev5
Had covid, then the three shots, then recently got it again. Can’t help but feel helpless.ID: hsnjtg7
At least there isn’t a machine breathing for you..ID: hsnhr4v
Buddy, it sucks! But know that you aren’t helpless, you just did all the things you could do. If it’s this bad with the vaccine and booster, statistics say it would have been far worse if you hadn’t been.
Make sure you have some N95s on hand when you get better, to continue doing all you can.ID: hsnici7
Yeah, the only difference it's it's two years later.ID: hsnea8n
For what it's worth I think your experience is somewhat rare.
My buddy is an ER doctor and he said almost 100% of the patients he is seeing with omnicron are not vaccinated.
Not saying there aren't exceptions.ID: hsngd5y
DoctorComics obviously feels sick as a dog but he's not in the hospital and that's the difference I think.ID: hsngcbw
From what I've been hearing, there's a lot of triple vaxxed people who are getting sick like the person you responded to. Basically it's hitting vaxxed anywhere from a mild cold to a nasty flu that totally sucks, but is not bad enough to go to the hospital. I had one friend say that it was like his throat was full of razor blades, it hurt so badly.
But the unvaxxed are still getting the brunt of the severe disease, and they're far, far more likely to be getting severely ill and having to go to the hospital. Basically, the vaccine is working as intended, and for the most part preventing severe illness, which is why your friend is mostly seeing unvaccinated patients in the ER.ID: hsnfsx4
It’s odd, the only people I know with Covid recently are all vaccinated and boosted. I really don’t think I know anyone not vaccinated, or at least no one who would say.
But, I assumed omicron was just chugging away regardless. Mild symptoms for those that had it though.ID: hsniy0z
This is not different from the flu shot. You only have a slightly less chance to catch it but a much greater chance to avoid getting really sick.ID: hsnl5s9
Us boosted but sick are sick, just not visiting your er friend….
Of course. In general, having sick workers come to work has never been a good practice. Fortunately, we’ve never had illnesses recently that mimicked the measles and smallpox in terms of infectibility.
If we are going to treat Covid like an endemic disease, this is likely going to be a consequence during the surge periods.ID: hsnm191
Having a country without required sick days and healthcare was always gonna bite us in the ass.ID: hsndmbb[removed]ID: hsnha4m
Cool story. What are next week's powerball numbers though?ID: hsnjpbc
Measles is more likely to come from anti-vax US at this point. Covid-measles, mild like “mild” Covid, then the disfiguring pox!
Will the retirees plz get back to work?ID: hsnjw30
Please just get some perspective
The Half-staffed movement continues….
That is indeed what happens when you don't control a pandemic. Oh well!
Alternative headline: omicron is making lots of people extremely ill and unable to work, exacerbating worker shortages, especially those created by lean staffing policiesID: hsnhpu7
More accurate for sure but it wouldn't get the same gut reaction from people tho.
Gotta wonder where we'd be with a vaccinated and boosted populious.ID: hsngrn8
The UK has that and they are fucked. Omicron might not kill you if you are vaccinated, but it's certainly going to make you too sick to work for a while.ID: hsnh007
I am certain vaccination status plays an important factor in the length of time missed for illness.
Stop forcing people with covid to come into work, infecting others
Stop allowing management to show up knowingly infected
Stop allowing places to stay open and allowing maskless customers to come into storefronts
Come to r/antiwork and post your stories, organize and get into the fight. Unfair conditions and money over health is the problem.ID: hsnckts
I dunno maybe require workers to wear masks...ID: hsnht02
Antiwork just wants better working conditions and fair pay (for the most part)
Most of them are ok with their business mandating vaccines and masks though.ID: hsnko55
Having a mask requirement does nothing without enforcement for non-compliance. I work in a grocery store and everyday that I'm at work I see certain people who will alternate between: having no mask, having it around their chin, or rare moments of wearing it correctly. Management does nothing, and will even casually chat with these individuals. My department manager will pull their mask down to talk, when they are actually wearing it.
Yet when news updates from corporate are pushed out they reiterate the policy being every individual is required to wear a mask regardless of vaccination status. The daily required training is peppered with refreshers on proper mask usage. The company is committed to health and safety. You'll be treated as a pariah should you call out sick though.ID: hsnkh9o
As I understand it, the problem with Omicron is how fast it works. By the time you realize that you are sick, you may have also passed it to your coworkers. They also don't realize they are sick until they've passed it on. Just look at the explosion in case numbers.
We should be making a hard push to reinstate mask mandates and boost vaccination efforts, but even in my liberal area we continue to relax policies. Local hospitals are at max capacity and projections show we aren't in the worst of the surge yet.ID: hsnhcd1
This subreddit used to be good and stood for something. Now it's a clown show with people getting off to employees scamming or sabotaging employers.ID: hsnbslx
All of this but minus the r/antiwork insanityID: hsnc3tg
That “insanity” is workers standing up for themselves. We need more of that. Workers have the power, they just need to use it.ID: hsnf52h
How is it insane?ID: hsnc69j
EVERY SINGLE PART INCLUDING THEADVOCACY
ALSO CONSIDER JOINING THE SUB FOR THE MAY DAY STRIKE
EDIT: big surprise, the guy who called antiwork insane has some bigoted views about Arabs.
There was a massive shortage before omicron
Gee whiz. If only there was anything that could be done...ID: hsn93yd
Like what?ID: hsnb3ys
-stimulus checks for everyone, which can allow non-essential workers to stay at home.
-temporarily go back to remote learning in schools & remote work for those that can do their job from home.
-reinstate 10-day quarantine (preferably 14 day) after testing positive
-Require vaccination/booster for air travel.
-Have a mask mandate for both indoor & outdoor places.
-have both masks & tests available to everyone. Should have been done months ago rather than scramble for have them available through a convoluted way like they currently do
In other words, thing predicted that would happen without precautionary measures happened when places stopped precautionary measures.
Shocking, I know
I've been out of work for two weeks with covid. At least another one til my next PCR test. It's rough out here.
Maybe pay us better and give us better working conditions
When Delta came through we had a notice of infected in the building every couple of weeks (it's district policy to alert) but we haven't had a single notice since november. I'm in a major metro area and know a few people who've gotten it outside work, but surprisingly Omicron hasn't been an issue for us (in our building).
This is my company's busiest time of year. They've been pretty darn good with the pandemic following safety precautions and such. We have so many people out with Covid or contact or any symptoms weren't getting killed. We pay for peoples time off. Some people have abused the pay and call in with "symptoms", but that kind of goes with any thing like that. We already had trouble with staffing as it was. We're way behind on our due out times to have the time sensitive work out the door.
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We're feeling this hard! I'm in package delivery so regardless of who's in or not the freight is still there needing to be delivered. So losing 1-2 people a day, every day on top of normal vacation and whatnot we're beyond hurting. It's like 2020 but 10x worse. We went the entirety of 2020 with maybe 5 cases in our building and just a couple all of 2021 until right before the holidays when shit hit the fan.
My Transit Agency is suffering for drivers right now due to sicks.
Just a few seconds ago they came over the radio for an agency wide announcement begging for drivers to take as much extra work as we're legally allowed. And while I typed this, they pushed a message asking for the same thing.
"Oh no, the entirely predictable consequences of my public health and economic policies!"
Pay your employees a living wage or prepare to close. Womp womp.
Its almost like the 2 checks we got wasn’t enough to flatten the curve and we were forced to go back to work regardless of sickness and now we are seeing the aftermath of our government’s not helping its own people
Everyone is vaxxed at my job and still calling in sick
In landscape maintenance. About 20% or so of our workforce has been constantly out due to covid.